The Return of Dr. Octagon

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Total Tracks: 14   Total Length: 34:16

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Not Really Recommended

HeyNomad

It's not a bad album. There are a few interesting, original moments. For example, following the brief, spoken "Our Operators are Masturbating," "Trees" opens the album with a very pleasant shock. "Eat It" is fun, and "Al Green" is catchy even if it doesn't feel very original. But none of that adds up to anything that can compete with "Dr. Octagonecologyst." Not even close. After a listen or two, "Return" starts to sound very stale. It doesn't display any serious growth, in my opinion. Considering all of that, plus the fact that it was released under pretty shady circumstances and without the artist's full consent, I recommend passing on this one and waiting for something Kool Keith or one of his many alter-egos puts his full weight behind.

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Fake, real-who cares?

Halien

This has got some bizarre, funky shit on it which I'm liking. Whether or not it's "real" isn't important. I'm buying music here not a watch, I don't care how it got made.

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its not a proper dr. octagon album

jsmith218

You can probably wiki the contraversy over this album, true it was made and released with out Kool Keith's permission, and its definately a pretender to the Dr. Octagon throne, but Kool Keith's recent output has been spotty as hell and some of his recent official albums are much worse than this. There is also a much worse fake Dr. Octagon album called "Dr. Octagon pt. 2" and while this album is ok and you can do much worse, it still cant hold a candle to the hip-hop classic "Dr. Octagonecologyst"

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not "a fake", just very Kool Keith

papagaio

Read the link to the article below, it's good. In it, Keith admits he likes the mix on this record, and I do,too, especially "Trees". Both Keith and the record company had a falling out with the original producer, so the company handed the tracks over to other producers, who did a good job. Keith is no purist, so why the hip hop-holier-than-thouisms? The music is good, period.

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WARNING!

Porieux

Beware, this is not a legit Dr. Octagon release and it is not sanctioned by Kool Keith nor was he involved in producing it. Interview with Kool Keith proving this is not legit: [url]http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2006-09-27/music/pressplay_full.html[/url]

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Who even knows?

bobbly

It is true there has been a lot of controversy about which is "real" - The Return of Dr Octagon or Dr Octagon Part 2. Having heard bits of both, this one (Return) sounds better to me. Keith hasn't made any public statement about either one to my knowledge. From what I can make out, Keith's vocal tracks have been used by a couple different producers though who actually "owned" thewm and had the right to finish them seems to be real murky azz.

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Sounds chopped up...

scrawdbloke

Yeah that's really Keith. No, he didn't ok the use of his vox. It's not a bad disc...just obvious that he didn't have much to do with it. If you can get over the canned vocals, there's a decent amount of texture here...they really tried!

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WTF goes on here....!?!

Grimace

People are saying this is a fake, but I just saw this article about Kool Keith annoucing a tour to support this record?? [url]http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6005[/url] Can anyone shed anymore light on this album??

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crapfest

row1.info

lol this album is so rubbish (see http://row1.info for details on the controversy). And for everyone saying it's OCD records, OCD was supposedly created by CMH records to get around legal issues i.e. the albums a bootleg

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This is legit

Udiggity

Its the same album available at amazon, and reviewed in numerous magazines over the last couple months. E-Music just got the label wrong.

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